. >> why are democrats so afraid of going back to the clinton tax rates? that's a great question. wasn't that the source of prosperity in the '90s? >> i liked that tax structure. >> i know you do, jared. >> i'm just saying that's something they agree on. >> here's the deal. what you saw today was really show business on the case of the white house with an audience behind him. the president did not talk about entitlements, anything he would give on, really zero change today. i want to rise above, but we're not going to get there until -- but actual giving. >> you know, the problem with that prediction, and i know you believe the same thing, that we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. we're speaking to an investing audience that doesn't want to hear it, already having an extraordinarily difficult time figuring out the market. >> i understand that. the investment community will hear a lot of things it doesn't like -- i'm sorry, i didn't catch all the names -- that the last speaker was saying, when someone says something conciliatory, the markets are going to move on that. that's re